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April 20th, 2004
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Do your own research...
...but I heard this from anotherjen...

Apparently the CEO of Curves for Women, a born-again Christian, "gives to pregnancy centers supported by Operation Save America, the anti-abortion group whose purpose, according to its Web site, 'unashamedly takes up the cause of preborn children in the name of Jesus Christ.'" So if you're pro-choice, I recommend changing health clubs, and letting the Curves folks know why.

http://www.belleville.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/8445687.htm
Then again, the founder of Domino's was someone who was diametrically opposed from me politically, and not only did I eat their product, I worked there, too...the person != the product.
Sigh.

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 20th, 2004 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 07:20 am (UTC)

Re: Ain't the Philsophy

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I agree...or, as other correspondents have suggested, you can make the decision that "voting with your feet/pocketbook" by forgoing their services may cost you personally more than what the percentage of your contribution is...
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From:vvalkyri
Date:April 20th, 2004 09:18 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I commented about that last week. The owner of Curves gives 10% of gross intake and possibly 80% of his take home to charities. Anti choice charities are one of these things, but individual franchises choose different things. One of my friends has mentioned food drives and supply drives for animal shelters, for example.

I can't really fault someone for supporting causes in which he believes. I haven't been able to find out much about what percentage goes to the pregnancy centers, nor what other sorts of things are done by same.

Here's another article for you: http://www.christianitytoday.com/tc/2004/001/3.30.html
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From:angelovernh
Date:April 21st, 2004 01:37 am (UTC)
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While that's true that the person != the product, you must have heard "vote with your feet" or "vote with your pocketbook", too?
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 07:14 am (UTC)

well...

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I'm not in Curves' target demographic (wrong chromosones)...
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From:eeedge
Date:April 21st, 2004 05:45 am (UTC)
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I'd suspected that they were rather rabidly "Christian" (in the against anything they consider "immoral," like individual rights) when they started playing Christian rock.

But there does not appear to be anyplace else in this immediate area that I could go to achieve the same thing, which leaves me in a quandary. I need to lose the weight and do the exercise, and this works, but I'm thoroughly against their political views as described above.

I boycott Walmart, but then I can get the same products or better elsewhere. What to do about Curves?
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From:vvalkyri
Date:April 21st, 2004 06:40 am (UTC)
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According to the article Pete posted the choice of music is per franchise.
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 07:07 am (UTC)

heh...

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yeah...luckily Mongahan didn't mandate any particular background music at Dominos...
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From:sparkybish
Date:April 21st, 2004 06:07 am (UTC)
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Well here I had written off Curves. Maybe I will look into joining!
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 07:10 am (UTC)

:)

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You could go with christilyn, right?
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From:christilyn
Date:April 21st, 2004 06:11 am (UTC)
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Eh...I figure I pay for a service b/c I want the service and don't worry overmuch about what the money goes towards. I never understood the "don't buy Japanese" thing with cars, nor did I understand the Baptists boycotting Disney b/c of gay benefits issues.

Not that it's wrong to do so...it's just that I don't have time to research every place I do business...every utility company, every grocery store, gas station, fast food restaurant...and the opinions of each franchise owner of said establishments. So...I'm not going to selectively boycott places unless I know they are abusing their own employees...

I guess I don't care what the owner of a business does with his or her own money.

Course, if this woman is putting the money towards finding medical care for pregnant woman and loving homes for unwanted babies, then more power to her. If she is funding mad clinic bombers...then I have a different opinion. Problem I have with most anti abortionists is that they tend to be the ones who also are unwilling to help fund, oh, say, birth control for teens...and who are unwilling to help, say...fund programs to help provide care for the unwanted children. They somehow believe that if you tell people that they can get pregnant from having sex (gasp!) and take all the resources away from poor people with children, you'll discourage people from having sex.

Yeah. That works.

And that's the opinion you get from a liberal Christian. :)

But then again I probably don't boycott places b/c I'm lazy. :)
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 07:08 am (UTC)

heh..

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don't feel bad...I shop at Home Depot which discriminates against homosexuals...yes, I could find alternatives, but not good ones.

My brother hasn't disowned me, yet...
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From:christilyn
Date:April 22nd, 2004 05:58 am (UTC)

Re: heh..

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I shop at Home Depot, even though one of my friends' husbands was almost killed by a falling box, spent 2 months in the hospital and several months in rehab.

And got a nice healthy settlement out of the deal...
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From:happypete
Date:April 22nd, 2004 05:48 pm (UTC)

Re: heh..

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yikes...ever ask him if he'd trade not having the hefty settlement for not having the box fall on him to begin with?

yeah, those warehouse stores can be dangerous...other people have been crushed by boxes, etc., pushed by forklifts in the next aisle over, generally..
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From:christilyn
Date:April 22nd, 2004 07:41 pm (UTC)

Re: heh..

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Yeah, remind me to tell you what happened to him.

He was lucky...his injuries looked far worse than they turned out to be. Well...they really were that bad...he just recovered very very well. Broken legs, broken back...not pretty.
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From:happypete
Date:April 23rd, 2004 04:04 pm (UTC)

Re: heh..

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yeah..yikes...wow...
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From:dindin
Date:April 21st, 2004 09:52 am (UTC)
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And Blockbuster's owner is uber-conservative too...
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From:happypete
Date:April 21st, 2004 10:01 am (UTC)

it's a problem...

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there's a lot of rich, old uber-socially-conservative business owners...
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From:dindin
Date:April 21st, 2004 10:02 am (UTC)

Re: it's a problem...

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Yup.
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